Listen to the most recent episode of my podcast: #657 At an Art Exhibition (with transcript) https://anchor.fm/joseph-mc42/episodes/657-At-an-Art-Exhibition-with-transcript-e2fba3m
Transcript https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BZu1Cs1zNRYTwUnUf6NCafd3O_0DjUi-/view?usp=drivesdk